Neville C Thompson

Neville Thompson acted as the online producer on the 1974 film of Swallows and Amazons. He choose an excellent crew and took daily responsibility for scheduling the production on location in the Lake District and later at Elstree Studios where the film was edited and post-synced.

Producer Richard Pilbrow with Neville C Thompson on Derwentwater in the Lake District in 1973
Producer Richard Pilbrow and Production Associate Neville C Thompson on Derwentwater in the Lake District in 1973

Neville was born in Ipswich in 1933. Although gregarious at times, he was a quiet man who was once a maths teacher in Scotland.  He had five children to support, but decided to go to RADA and become an actor. When a pair of twins came along he moved the family to Croyden and went into film production. He began work as a location manager for Mike Newell and became a production manager for Ken Russell.

Richard Pilbrow gained the rights and film finance for ‘Swallows and Amazons’ but came from a background in theatre and knew nothing about film production. He asked Neville to help set everything up.

Neville C Thomas (top centre) with Richard Pilbrow, Claude Whatham et al

Neville came to Burnham-on-Crouch for our sailing audition when the dinghy ‘Swallow’ must have been purchased from the boatbuilders William King.

The Production Team on 'Swallows and Amazons' in 1973
Second Assistant Terry Needham, Associate Producer Neville C Thompson and Production Manager Graham Ford with the unit radio on a sunny day in June 1973

Neville was passionate about film making, becoming known as ‘the last gentleman producer.’  He would have been the one making the executive decisions, the man ultimately in charge of the schedule, personnel, safety, insurance and bringing the film in on budget.

Claude Whatham, Richard Pilbrow, Gareth Tandy, Peter Robb-King, Ronnie Cogan and Neville C Thompson with Kit Seymour and Lesley Bennet trying on hats for Swallows and Amazons
Claude Whatham, Richard Pilbrow, Gareth Tandy, Peter Robb-King, Ronnie Cogan and Neville C Thompson with Kit Seymour and Lesley Bennet trying on hats

His daughter, Mandy, told me that he was a wonderful Dad but had been away a lot. ‘He had eight children in nine years and was keen for them to make their own way in the world.’ Mandy became an occupational therapist, George became a ballet dancer, Chris Thompson went into film making. Neville was diagnosed with Lukemia at the age of 47 but lived another twenty years, ending his days in Woodbridge in Suffolk.

Neville Thompson relaxing on set – photo taken on Sunday 24th July 1973, by Daphne Neville

Neville established a production office at the unit hotel on Windermere. By the time he reached the location he was often exhausted. Everything he’d set up was in motion so, like an experienced parent, he could relax and enjoy the boats.

Richard Pilbrow and Neville Thompson ~ photo:Daphne Neville

When Neville died in Woodbridge in Suffolk at the age of sixty-nine in 2002, Richard told me that ‘Swallows and Amazons’ was broadcast on television as if in his honour.

You can find an impressive list of Neville C Thompson’s production credits on IMDb here

Sophie Neville with Sten Grendon, Jane Grendon, Claude Whatham and Neville Thompson
Sophie Neville looks on as Stephen Grendon organises his costume helped by Jane Grendon with Claude Whatham and Neville C Thompson when filming pick up shots near Epsom.

You can find details of how to purchase ‘The making of Swallows and Amazons’ here on line or listen to it on audible and other audiobook platforms.

The audiobook of 'The Making of Swallows and Amazons'
The new audiobook

Zoom talks on ‘The Making of Swallows and Amazons’ hosted by the charity Schoolreaders

On Wednesday 27th November at 3.00pm, I will be giving another talka about ‘The Making of Swallows and Amazons’ on a Zoom hosted by the national child literacy charity Schoolreaders.

You can join us by remailing s.glasgow-smith@schoolreaders.org

If you can’t make it, please contact Schoolreaders who can send you a link to the recording.

Since the original film of ‘Swallows and Amazons’ has been out for fifty years, and screened on television more than any other British film, it has a loyal fan base. Paddy Heron of the fundraising charity ‘Children in Read’ says, ‘I have seen that film I don’t know how many times through the decades, with my brother and sisters, with my own kids, and with my grandkids. That film will stand the test of time for ever.’

Jane Whitbread, who founded Schoolreaders ten years ago, tells me that a love of reading is a proven key to future success in life. Around a quarter of all children in England leave primary school unable to read well and yet good literacy improves all round academic achievement. Arthur Ransome’s series of twelve ‘Swallows and Amazons’ books is great for reluctant readers – those who learn to read but fail to develope an interest in books.

Although my handwriting outshone others, I was deeply embarrassed about not being able to read until the age of nine. I battled to crack the code but once through the barrier, soon gained fluency and was captivated by imaginary worlds. Like me, Andrew Harvey said that he was helped by the Arthur Ransome books, “which provided the inspiration to get me through my (undiagnosed) dyslexia.”

Since it was launched ten years ago, Schoolreaders has helped about 80,000 children to read fluently and develop an interest in books by giving them one-to-one support.

It’s clear that lives are transformed by reading. The author David Cooper says: ‘I found Ransome when I was six, and that was a revelation. He wrote with the same high standards as apply to writing for adults, which is why people of all ages are attracted to them. It only took a few chapters of Swallows and Amazons to make me want to be a writer.’

You can watch a precious talk with Schoolreaders on Youtube:

If you could volunteer to listen to children read in school for a year, think of contacting the charity Schoolreaders: www.schoolreaders.org

What are your favourite lines from the 1974 film ‘Swallows and Amazons?’ Screenwriter Brian Sibley’s hilarious Q&A with the cast of the classic movie made in location in the Lake District 50 years ago.

On 6th April, the original cast of ‘Swallows and Amazons’ (1974) gathered to celebrate the 50th Anniversary of the film’s release in London with David Wood who wrote the script.

It was unexpectedly amusing as can be seen in this recording kindly brought to us by Lee Pressmen and volunteers of the Cinema Museum where the original movie was shown before we were invited on stage by Brian Sibley.

The cast of 'Swallows and Amazons' (1974) gathered for the 50th Anniversary - photo Lee Pressman of the Cinema Museum
Brian Sibley talks to Simon West, Suzanna Hamilton, Sophie Neville, Sten Grendon, Kit Seymour and screenwriter David Wood – photo Lee Pressman of the Cinema Museum

As soon as self-confessed ‘super fans’ arrived, the venue began to buzz with the question, “What was your favourite line from the film?”

“They’ve got India rubber necks.”

“They’re girls!”

“… must be a retired pirate. He’s working on his devilish plans.”

Sten Grendon, who played Roger, said it was undoubtedly: “I said – ‘Yes’.”

I’ve always liked: “X marks the spot where they ate six missionaries.” Although I often use, “Here we are, intrepid explorers making the first ever voyage into unchartered waters,” I think “I’ve got her. I’ve got her!” is the most appealing.

One viewer on Instagram claimed their favourite line was: “Titty that way.”

What is your favourite line?

Do add your line to the Comments below.

A recording of Brian’s interview with the screenwriter David Wood can be watched on this website here.

Photos of the event can be found on an earlier post on this website here.

For those who couldn’t make it to the Cinema Museum in London, here is a brief profile:

10 tips on how to begin adapting your book for film, television or radio

I began with working on book adaptations in 1971 with Laurie Lee’s memoir Cider With Rosie and went on to appear as Titty Walker in the 1974 film Swallows and Amazons when the screenwriter David Wood worked with Mrs Ransome to abridge her husband’s well-loved novel into a 90 minute movie.

I’ve written about how the film was made and include pages from David Wood’s script of ‘Swallows and Amazons’ below. It is fascinating to see the original 1973 screenplay. Those who know the film well can appreciate how it was changed whilst we were on location.

By 1983, I was working in television production on book adaptations such as Coot Club and The Big Six by Arthur Ransome, set in East Anglia.

My Family and Other Animals shot entirely on Corfu.

One by One, David Taylor’s memoirs of a zoo vet.

Jimmy Ellis in 'One by One'
James Ellis as Paddy O’Reilly in the BBC vet series ‘One by One’, which ran to 32 episodes ~ photo: Sophie Neville

I also worked on The Diary of Anne Frank, Doctor Who, Eastenders, Rockcliffes Babies (a police procedure series), a Shakespeare play – Titus Andronicus and Bluebell – a costume drama based on the true life story of a dancer from Liverpool called Margaret Kelly.

Maragret Kelly and her Bluebell Girls

I then wrote/edited – five documentaries and two drama-docs that I produced for BBC Education, and one that I made for Channel 4. In all I’ve worked on about 100 different television programmes in 7 different countries and appeared in 100 others but am still learning how to write scripts.

Sophie Neville directing a sequence with BBC cameraman Lorraine Smith

I’ve submitted numerous tv and film proposals. ‘Dawn to Dusk’ became a major Natural History series, broadcast on Thursday nights at 8.00pm.

Dawn to Dusk, a safari through Africa's wild places, accompanied the BBC series presented by Jonathan Scott
Series originated by Sophie Neville, Produced by Alastair Fothergill

It is very difficult to get a new series or film accepted. George Marshall said, ‘Hollywood is like a whale, indiscriminately glupping plankton.’ He optioned one film script I’ve written.

‘But I’d love to get my books adapted for the screen’

You can pay someone to adapt your work – and then edit and market it yourself. But watch out for scammers.

‘How do I do it myself?’

  1. It’s going to be a slog – and expensive – so ask yourself WHY you want to do it. You can always self publish a novel but there is little you can do with a script that won’t sell. The transposition exercise helps you improve on your prose, but it is a lot of work. Take a first step and record your novel as an audiobook. I have narrated two at Monkeynut Studios.

You need to build up a CV to give producers confidence. The easiest thing to get accepted is an item in a long-running magazine programme eg: BBC Antiques Roadshow. This cost me no more than my time and petrol but I had two (historical fiction) stories accepted instantly. They were repeated and got me in the Mail Online and OK magazine. You can see the photos on this website here.

‘That’s not my pigeon!’ But it’s what viewers want. Start small and move on to providing Countryfile with an historical story. ‘But I write Biblical fiction.’ OK – Horrible Histories.

2. Buy Final Draft software – (they give you a free trial) and read up on how to format a script. Free software is out there such as celtx or WriterDuet. MS word has a screenplay template but most professionals send each other manuscripts on Final Draft.

The formatting gives you the length: 1 minute a page – 90 minutes for a screenplay – ie script of 90 pages.

100 pages = a short story. When I transposed a screenplay into a novel, adding description, it was only 30,000 words long. It took me another five years to finish it.

3. Never submit rough work. Perfect it. One of my first jobs – aged 22 – was to put together A Russell Harty Christmas show starring Esther Rantzen, Peter Davison and Matthew Kelly. This was the first time I wrote for television: a pantomime piece. I walked into the rehearsal room with a rough copy and it was a disaster. They gave the commission to Nicholas Parsons – and paid him well.

There is lots of information on the net to help you eg: The Top 10 Mistakes New Screenwriters Make

Here’s a book on The Top 10 Mistakes New Screenwriters Make and How to Avoid Them

4. Write plays for the stage or radio – they are cheaper to make and accept historical and biblical fiction with BBC Writer’s Room offering an open door. Write low budget material. Come up with a story that’s set in a church or an inexpensive venue.

5. Think Netflix. Think episodic: Would your books be suitable for a TV series? What kind? How long would each episode be?

A serial = long-running story with something happening in each episode. eg: we made My Family and Other Animals into 8 x 28.5 min episodes. (Interestingly Ep 2 looked weak on paper but turned out to be quirky and eccentric.)

A series = each episode a story with a continual tread. The James Herriot books made a good series: Each 50 min programme could stand alone as a TV film. Different characters in each. Silent Witness – a dramas with pairs of episodes within a series.

The Meeting House - a screenplay by Sophie Neville set in East Africa

“I want to make one book into a feature film.”

6. Look at the market. What is selling? It’s difficult to get a film accepted, particularly an epic one. If you have an idea for one set in a swimming pool in LA it would be easier. The US market is looking for formulaic Christmas movies – 50 get made a year. High concept Rom Coms. Netflix series. Many filmmakers begin with shorts. Look up the length. See what they want.

David Wood's screenplay of Swallows and Amazons
The script for the movie ‘Swallows and Amazons’

It can happen! David Wood was asked to adapt Swallows and Amazons at the age of 28 in 1972. He added jeopardy – which was cut firstly by Mrs Ransome, secondly by time restraints and ultimately the producer and his assistant, who stuck to the simple story that had been a bestseller since 1931.

Sophie Neville and David Wood talking about films on CBBCTV

7. Do you write for children? Again, think in terms of sales and marketing. David said, that since parents tend to be very conservative, it is a good idea to adapt well-known stories, like the Tiger Who Came To Tea rather than attempt to devise your own. It’s easier for the producers to raise funding. Movie finances are far more risky than books. Bestsellers can still lose money.

Ransome began studied storytelling in Russia. Perhaps try adapting fairytales, traditional or out of copyright stories to make a name for yourself before you try to sell your own novel as a script.

8. Watch on catch up and take note. Watch good writers. What do you like? What don’t you? Who is producing what? Talk to writers. Gerald Durrell advised us about things like sound, encouraged us to edit the truth. Brian Sibley said that it’s good to begin with a journey. The dubbing editor on Swallows and Amazons amplified Titty’s imagination (cheaply) from the sound of wind in palm trees, parrots, chattering monkeys…

Gerald Durrell with Sophie Neville
Gerald Durrell with Sophie Neville in 1987

The producer Joe Waters told me to ‘Put your money in front of the camera’ – the visual impact of steam trains, traction engines, period cars, horses and boats.

9. Get a job as a trainee script editor. All BBC producers work with a script editor. There were two on Eastenders when I worked on the series. See if you can work in this capacity. (NB: Script Editors are different from Script Supervisors who oversea continuity on location and script co-ordinators.)

Swallows Script page 1
The original screenplay of ‘Swallows and Amazons’ adapted by David Wood in 1973

10. Go on a scriptwriting course – eg: Falmouth University.

There’s a lot to learn. eg: You need to number the Days. These examples are lacking. It should read: EXT: LAKE – DAY 2 . Remember the script will be ‘broken down’ by the costume, makeup and set designers.

Expect re-writes – hundreds. They will want Spot the dog.

The script of David Wood’s adapation of Arthur Ransome’s classic book ‘Swallows and Amazons’

What do you do with your finished script?

  1. Screen writing competitions and pitch sessions. Page Turner in the UK offer a book adaptation as a prize or will adapt your book for a fee.

Roadmap Writers in Los Angeles run competitions and will try to get you US representation

I have entered numerous screenwriting awards on FilmFreeway – winning 25 to date. Again, beware of the spammy ‘Film Awards’ offering discounts.

All the big American awards can be entered on Coverfly. You can register and set up a profile free of charge. I have accumulated 17 accolades and have a profile here.

Bible Society – The Pitch –  pitch a short film concept that brings the Bible to life.

2. Look for an agent. Pitch to producers.

The costs can mount up. Have a budget. I met someone who spent 3 years writing 4 feature films and sold nothing but remember that it can happen. Swallows and Amazons was made by very young professionals and it’s still being broadcast.

Remember: Script writing is a craft. The huge comfort is that Jesus was a carpenter. He knows how to put things together, so they last, and are finished well.

A page of David Wood’s original screenplay: ‘Swallow & Amazons’ (1974) that was completely changed.

Just do it.

As a young actor, Julian Fellows formed a partnership with the drama director Andrew Morgan when making Coot Club on location in Norfolk. Just when the Head of BBC Drama Series and Serials said ‘No more children’s book adaptations!’ they collaborated on two period costume drama serials for children: Little Lord Fontelroy and The Prince and the Pauper. He then won an Oscar for Gosford Park.

Julian Fellowes as Jerry in ‘Coot Club’ photo: Sophie Neville

He’s the only writer I’ve encountered on location. ‘I’m like a make-up artist, ready to tweak.’

Santa Barbara International Screenplay Awards interview Sophie Neville

This coming Monday 2nd September, Sophie Neville is giving a talk on zoom about her screenwriting for Historical and Biblical Fiction Christian Writers Online. You can sign up on Bobbie Ann Cole’s website ahava.space

Sophie was interviewed recently for Writer’s Showcase at the Santa Barbara International Screenplay Awards:

Your script stood out among hundreds of others. What was the inspiration for your story and why did you write a script instead of a short story or a novel?

THE MEETING HOUSE is the extraordinary true story of an East African who served as an ambulance driver in Burma during WWII, became a POW to the Japanese and was airlifted out of Tokyo before it was bombed by Operation Meetinghouse in 1945.

I was commissioned to write the screenplay, then developed the historical novel with Curtis Brown Creative. It has won three writing prizes and is ready for publication.

How long did it take you to write your script… and what is your writing process?

This script took years of research! I worked on the outline with the producer, but she sadly died. It was then optioned by George Marshall who personally gave me rewrites. I then brought in historical advisers, script editors, kept polishing and tried out different structures while writing the novel.

What is your ultimate ambition as a writer?

I have two ideas for comedies: BANANA MAN – THE TRUE STORY about singleness and marriage (I was the bridesmaid) and THE RING OF KERRY based on an hysterical road trip collecting handprints for a genetic survey of Western Ireland in 1981 (the misadventures of me and a girlfriend).

Which film or television writers inspire you? Why?

Brian Sibley inspired me with his novel and true-life faith film ‘SHADDOWLANDS’. Sally Wainwright OBE writes humorous female-driven crime with gusto. David Wood OBE is great at adapting children’s literature for both film and stage.

What’s your all-time favorite movie or television show?

The movie SWALLOWS AND AMAZONS (1974) and tv drama SWALLOWS AND AMAZONS FOREVER! (1984) as I worked on them both.

What advice do you have for writers hoping to win a contest or place as a finalist as you have?

Keep writing – and keep submitting to Santa Barbara International Screenplay Awards for feedback!

What else are you working on that the world needs to know about?

The world needs to know about Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. My book FUNNILY ENOUGH – a true-life, faith & family, comedy would convert into a low-budget movie. (We could add the fact that a serial killer was at large in Gloucestershire at the time. He has twelve known victims.)

Speaking about 50th Anniversary of the classic film ‘Swallows and Amazons’ on Radio Calon this Thursday 29th August at 9.00pm

Sophie Neville spoke to Luke Durnell on Screen Facts, his hour of music from the big screen, on Thursday 29th August at 9.00pm.

Catch up on recent Radio Calon broadcasts via their website – with further details on how to listen here

The full ‘ship’s log’ relating to the adventures we had making the film can be found in the illustrated paperback published by The Lutterworth Press or ebook entitled ‘The Secrets of Filming Swallows and Amazons’. This can be downloaded this onto your phone and used as a guide book if you can grab a chance to visit the locations.

Being on BBC Breakfast

Sophie Neville, Suzanna Hamilton and Kit Seymour on BBC Breakfast

‘Can you speak to BBC Breakfast?’ I was asked. ‘They want to interview the cast on Zoom tomorrow morning.’

It was Saturday 29th June. We were at Windermere Jetty in Cumbria for the 50th Anniversary of ‘Swallows and Amazons’, the 1974 film was being screened in the room below us and a huge number of enthusiasts were eager to chat about how we’d made it. I had just come in from sailing Amazon, John Sergeant, president of The Arthur Ransome Society, was about to arrive and we had books to sign, but I knew it was important to act fast. The BBC would need time to contact StudioCanal in order to use the film trailer. I grabbed my lap-top and attempted to persuade the production team we had lots to talk about while finding a good signal. The best place was on a staircase, which was fun when Captain Nancy and Mate Susan rushed past, but a more interesting background was required.

‘What time do you want us on air?’

‘7.40am.’

‘Ah – the museum doesn’t open until 10.00am. Can we chat to you from the terrance of our hotel? It overlooks Windermere.’

‘It might be best if we send out an outside broadcast unit.’

I wasn’t told the item would also go out on Look North and North West News.

I woke early the next morning to find Keith, the BBC cameraman, setting up his equipment. Rain clouds cleared as I unrolled Arnaldo Putzu’s 1974 film poster and plonked David Wood’s screenplay on top of it with a few flags but worried about my hair, which was not behaving. We had Peter Robb-King, one of the greatest make up designers in the world with us. I should have asked for his help. All I did was remove a car key from around my neck.

Sadly, Simon West who’d played Captain John had already left, but Suzanna Hamilton and Kit Seymour emerged from their rooms and we lined up for the shot.

Was I organised? Did I tell them, ‘We need to get three points across!’ ?

No.

Someone quietly suggested I could mention The Arthur Ransome Society who had organised the weekend festival, which was free for all.

Sophie Neville, Suzanna Hamilton and Kit Seymour setting up for BBC Breakfast
Sophie Neville, Suzanna Hamilton and Kit Seymour setting up for BBC Breakfast

Keith fitted us with earpieces and explained that there would be a delay between questions asked in the studio and our answers. We couldn’t see the presenters but could hear the film trailer being played. When we were asked us to introduce ourselves, I didn’t realise they needed to know which characters we’d played until I got to Kit Seymour, who had been Nancy. Straight forward and honest, she managed to answer the difficult question:

‘What’s it like… how does it feel?’

‘Listening to stories of how the film has changed people’s lives,’
she admitted, ‘was quite an emotional experience.’

Suzanna, explained in her beautiful voice, that since the the story was set in the 1930s it hasn’t dated, and we were able to chat naturally about our mission to encourage the next generation to get out on the water. We chatted about the movie memorabilia and David Wood’s script – that as children we were never allowed to read and the amazing time we were having at Windermere Jetty museum where one little girl arrived dressed as Titty Walker with a green parrot on her sholder.

I held Swallow’s flag and managed to speak about the acquisition and renovation of the dinghies, aware that there were no boats to be seen on the hotel terrace. However BBC Breakfast have brilliant vision mixers. The best film clips of Swallow and Amazon literally sailed over my words and I grabbed the chance to talk about The Arthur Ransome Society on national television before they bid us farewell.

When John Sergeant asked me how it had gone I had to admit that we tripped up on the time delays, but we celebrated the much loved film bringing news that Swallow and Amazon are being made available for anyone to sail and that grants are available for children to take part in outdoor activities mentioned in Arthur Ransome’s twelve books.

Many thanks to all those who left encouraging feedback on social media. I forwarded it to the production team.

Eileen Jones – This is fascinating , about the landscape more important than costume. Just introduced another generation.

Will Hawthorne – just watched it. Lovely.

Amanda Whatley – Great interview, congratulations on the reunion of the boats and people. 

Jon Porter – Fantastic

John Greenhough – Great memories of this film. 

David Elms – Delightful interview Sophie. 

Amanda Currie– I ‘m so sorry I didn’t get there Sophie, my stupid body keeps letting me down, I would have so loved to meet you all. 

Robin Jett – I love your delight about the boats. The boats are back! What fun! Great to see how ‘Susan’ and ‘Nancy’ have grown up too. I can see aspects of each character in each actress, but I expect, if you had all played different characters, that might still be true.

Did the Swallows wear hats – and should they have worn them in the films of ‘Swallows and Amazons’?

Sten Grendon (Roger), Simon West (John), Virginia McKenna (Mother), Suzanna Hamilton (Susan) and Sophie Neville (Titty) with their hats ~ photo: Daphne Neville

Arthur Ransome wrote ‘Swallows and Amazons’ in 1929 when hats were worn in England, certainly in north Lancashire where the book is set. Would members of the Walker family have been wearing them?

Sophie Neville as Titty in 1973

When I took part in Claude Whatham’s movie ‘Swallows and Amazons’, made in the early 1970s, we were given school hats to wear when we arrived at Holly Howe in the opening sequence. While the boys had caps, I was given a straw hat but found it blew off when we ran down the field to the Peak at Darien where I spotted the island of my dreams. It ended up being quite a useful thing to hold in my hands.

In later books in the series such as Peter Duck, Missee Lee and Great Northern Arthur Ransome depicts the Swallows wearing white linen sunhats but these do not appear in the Lakeland books until the hot summer of Pigeon Post. It only seems to be the Amazons who wore hats in Swallows and Amazons.

Sten Grendon, Simon West, Kit Seymour and Lesley Bennett in Secret Harbour

I rather envied the warmth these provided out on the water but they could get hot. This is possibly because in 1973, when they were sourced locally by the second assistant director, they could have been made of acrylic rather than Westmorland wool.

Claude Whatham, Richard Pilbrow, Gareth Tandy, Peter Robb-King, Ronnie Cogan and Neville C Thompson with Kit Seymour and Lesley Bennet trying on hats for Swallows and Amazons
Claude Whatham, Richard Pilbrow, Gareth Tandy, Peter Robb-King, Ronnie Cogan and Neville C Thompson with Kit Seymour and Lesley Bennet trying on hats

The first knitted hats that turned up on our film set were pink, and quite a bright pink at that. This photo shows them being tried and rejected, which is why Nancy and Peggy are not wearing hats in the scenes set at Beckfoot.

Kit Seymour and Lesely Bennett
Kit Seymour and Lesley Bennett playing the Amazons

It seems natural enough, shows them in a different light and works well when they are careening Amazon.

Kit Seymour with Claude Whatham, 1973
Kit Seymour with the director Claude Whatham, 1973

The second hats to arrived on set may not be have been exactly right in design but they weren’t too bad. Does anyone know if they were knitted specially and by whom?

Sophie Neville, Kit Seymour, Suzanna Hamilton, Sten Grendon, Simon West and Lesley Bennett in ‘Swallows and Amazons’ (1974)

Would the Amazons have removed their hats inside the houseboat? The great aunt would have certainly taken tea in her hat and this was a pirate feast.

Kit Seymour and Sophie Neville in 'Swallows and Amazons'
Kit Seymour as Nancy and Sophie Neville as Titty with the green parrot

Perhaps the fact that the Swallows don’t sail in hats adds accent to the Amazon pirates and Nancy triumphantly wearing hers.

Kit Seymour in 'Swallows and Amazons' (1974) by the film poster artist Arnaldo Putzu
Kit Seymour in ‘Swallows and Amazons’ (1974) by the film poster artist Arnaldo Putzu

My mother was given one of the pink rejects but wore a huge floral Donny Osmond cap on set.

She made me wear both a hat and sunscreen behind the scenes in an attempt to stave off sunstroke.

There were not many very sunny days but it was I who wore a hat at Beckfoot. I now prefer something with a wider brim and a string under the chin to ensure it doesn’t blow off and sink to the bottom of Derwentwater as my mother’s did.

Sophie Neville at Beckfoot
Sophie Neville at Brown Howe, the location used for Beckfoot

You can listen to the audiobook on ‘The Making of Swallows and Amazons’ or find more behind-the-scenes stories in the paperback available online.

The audiobook of 'The Making of Swallows and Amazons'
The new audiobook

Channeling Titty’s unique style with the help of costumes designed by Emma Porteous.

Sophie Neville and Sten Grendon in Swallows and Amazons 1974
Sophie Neville and Sten Grendon in Swallows and Amazons 1974

When I played Titty Walker in 1973, I tried to capture something of the style of the 1920s and portray her as the nine year-old girl in the illustrations Arthur Ransome’s drew in his book Swallows and Amazons. Although I shared the Scots/Irish/English ancestry of Titty Altounyan, a real little girl who the character had been based on, I lacked her Armenian heritage and dark, bobbed hair. However, Mrs Ransome had insisted that in the film Titty was to be played by ‘an English Rose’. Dame Virginia McKenna had accepted the part of our mother, who grew up in Australia, it seemed right that one of her children might have fair hair.

Virginia McKenna and Sophie Neville on Peel Island
Virginia McKenna and Sophie Neville on Peel Island ~ photo: Daphne Neville

My Scottish grandmother would have been aged sixteen in 1929. She loved clothes and had great style. People say that I look like my mother but I bear a greater resemblance to Granny in her youth.

Joy

I’d inherited my father’s long legs, which made me a couple of inches taller than Simon West who played my elder brother, John. Since this would clearly look wrong on screen, I was encouraged to devise ways of disguising my height, but this was difficult to do in boats.

Sophie Neville as Titty and Simon West as John

We often had to sit on the ground in Swallows and Amazons. The long legs needed to be folded up, exposed as they were by the short dresses or divided skirts designed by Emma Porteous.

Sophie Neville as Titty

I remember meeting Emma at a fitting at Angels Costumes on Shaftesbury Avenue in London when I tried on the original silk dress worn for our arrival at Holly Howe. It came with a straw hat similar to one I’d worn as a child.

Simon West, Stephen Grendon, Suzanna Hamilton and Sophie Neville as the Walker children dressed as they arrived at Holly Howe at the start of their holiday in the Lake District
Simon West, Stephen Grendon, Suzanna Hamilton and Sophie Neville as the Walker children dressed as they arrived at Holly Howe at the start of their holiday in the Lake District ~ photo: Daphne Neville

I had no idea how well known Emma Porteous was to become. She designed the costumes for the James Bond movies, along with Aliens and Judge Dread. Finding the boy’s school uniforms must have been a bit dull for one so talented but she found elegant vintage dresses for Dame Virginia McKenna who looks elegant in every scene.

Stephen Grendon, Simon West, Virginia McKenna, Suzanna Hamilton and Sophie Neville, trying not to look as tall as she was in 1973 ~ photo: Daphne Neville

Emma had most of my clothes made up for me. These included a brushed cotton nighty, worn at Holly Howe, pajamas for camping, and a swimming costume with little legs. Mine was far from glamorous being red, wooly and apt to ride up in the most unflattering manner. I was given a smart yellow coat to wear in the train, but it was too hot in the compartment and, although pretty, it was never seen in the finished film. It had buttons in the shape of flowers and may have been an original garment from 1929.

Sten Grendon, Suzanna Hamilton and Sophie Neville
Sten Grendon, Suzanna Hamilton and Sophie Neville

The silk dress revealed my ‘passion killers’. These navy blue elasticated gym knickers were an item of clothing requested by Claude Whatham, the film director, who remembered wearing long underwear himself. He insisted that I tucked my dress into these voluminous knickers, which the crew called ‘passion killers.’ This seemed natural as it was common practice. I’d done it myself, as had the Altounyan girls, but the tucking in became difficult to maintain and my legs were too gangly to warrant exposure. The knickers contained a hanky, used on two occasions. Growing up in the 1960’s – with a Scottish grandmother – I’d keep a hanky in my own over-knickers so found this quite natural. Even aged eleven my school uniform listed gym knickers (brown) and underpants.

Sophie Neville as Titty in 1973

Emma admitted to my mother that the dresses she’d had made for me would have been longer in 1929. She chose shorter, ‘out-grown’ hemlines as a nod to ‘Seventies fashion but these made my skinny legs look even more alarming.

Mum liked the pale yellow dress with scalloped detail. I didn’t then, but do now, although I don’t have the right colouring wear either yellow or green.

Simon West and Sophie Neville in Swallows and Amazons (1974)
Simon West and Sophie Neville on Peel Island in 1973

By the time I was pretending to be Robinson Crusoe, the yellow dress had been paired with a grey cardigan buttoned up to my neck for warmth. The quality of the material gave it a more natural, scruffy look than the white spotty dress with a Peter Pan collar. This looked a bit new for Titty, although it was much like the dresses Granny made for me, by hand, when I was aged nine. There was a little bit of smocking below the shoulders. I rather preferred Susan’s low-waisted gingham dress.

Simon West, Suzanna Hamilton and Sophie Neville reading BETTER DROWNED THAN DUFFERS IF NOT DUFFERS WONT DROWN
Simon West, Suzanna Hamilton and Sophie Neville

Did anyone find jackets for us to wear out on the water? No! We froze but the flimsy costumes we wore sailing to the island do give them impression of an idyllic summer holiday.

Sophie Neville, Suzanna Hamilton and Simon West sailing Swallow in 1973
Sophie Neville, Suzanna Hamilton and Simon West sailing Swallow in 1973

Emma only ever made one visit to the location, early on when Dame Virginia McKenna was on set. Our clothes were looked after by the wardrobe master Terry Smith who kept them crumpled up in suitcases rather than on a costume rail. He had no assistant or dressers except for my mother who helped him fit the film extras with costumes and had me wriggling into mine.

Terry Smith, Sophie Neville and Daphne Neville on location in the Lake District
Wardrobe Master Terry Smith with Sophie Neville and her mother Daphne Neville outside the Make-up caravan on location near Keswick in Cumbria

Apart from the school shoes I arrived in, we wore white(ish) gym shoes, which were forever getting wet. I would have preferred gumboots but the Swallows wore ‘sand shoes’ in all the books, so that was that. Terry dried them with the help of a gas heater, which once leaked dangerously in the Routemaster bus that was used as our dressing room. There could have been an explosion.

Sophie Neville as Titty Walker
Sophie Neville as Titty Walker

People often ask what my favourite costume was. This undoubtedly consisted of the floral blouse and dark divided skirt, which equated with the illustrations in the books. I went to such an old-fashioned convent so was used to wearing a tailored divided skirt on the school games field and found it always hung well. Mum buttoned up the collar so that I could wear a vest underneath when we were sailing. It was in this Tomboy-ish outfit that I discovered the treasure and bordered the houseboat. Ultimately this style sold the movie, although my blouse was painted an alarming shade of pink on the film poster designed by Arnaldo Putzu. I got away lightly. He depicted Virginia McKenna in orange.

Sophie Neville as Titty in 'Swallows and Amazons' (1974) by the film poster artist Arnaldo Putzu
Sophie Neville in ‘Swallows and Amazons’ (1974) by the film poster artist Arnaldo Putzu

I was asked recently if I was able to keep any of my costumes. I was told they would be used in other films and wonder if they could still be at Angels Costumes.

I do still have the dress I wore to the premier, along with a pink gingham prairie dress that my mother wore to the wrap party that has shot back into fashion.

The Neville girls off to the premier of Swallows and Amazons in 1974

My mother wore Donny Osmond caps on location. One of these sunk to the bottom of Derwentwater, but I wear a purple velvet one of the era. It should probably be on display at the V&A but I find it useful in the rain. The film producer, Richard Pilbrow, sent me Swallow’s flag. It is the very best of accessories anyone could wish for.

The navy blue woolen hat that I wore to the original sailing audition has been attacked by moths but was stuffed into a cupboard with other memorabilia from the film. I’ll bring as much as I can along to Windermere Jetty for the 50th Anniversary of ‘Swallows and Amazons’ on 29th and 30th June 2024. Join us there if you can.

The Secrets of Filming Swallows and Amazons‘ is available as an ebook here, while the audio book of The Making of Swallows and Amazons, narrated by me, Sophie Neville, can be found on all the usual online platforms. Let me know how you get on.

The audiobook of 'The Making of Swallows and Amazons'
The new audiobook

I captured the Amazon

I CAPTURED THE AMAZON

The Arthur Ransome Society has been able to reunite Swallow and Amazon for the fiftieth Anniversary of the 1974 film and to preserve them for future generations. Come to see them both – and even sail Amazon – at Windermere Jetty museum in Cumbria on 29th and 30th June when John Sergeant will be hosting a Q&A with the cast and crew.

Celebrating 50th Anniversary of the movie 'Swallows and Amazons' in 2024
Celebrating 50th Anniversary of the movie ‘Swallows and Amazons’ in 2024

The challenge is on to fully restore Swallow so that families can set her sails and live out the pages of Arthur Ransome’s iconic books today.

Sophie Neville when president of The Arthur Ransome Society

At the age of twelve, I was cast as Able Seaman Titty when the original film Swallows and Amazons was made on location in the Lake District in the summer of 1973. Dame Virginia McKenna played my mother and the six of us children had fun making Ronald Fraser walk the plank. Now hailed as a classic sailing film, I’m assured it has been broadcast on British television more times than any other movie and is currently streaming on Amazon.com and Netflix Europe.   

'Swallows and Amazons' on VHS
The cover of the original VHS version of ‘Swallows and Amazons’

One secret is that the film was made on four different lakes – Coniston Water, Windermere, Elterwater, Derwentwater – and a smelly lily pond. We were able to use Bank Ground Farm as Holly Howe and Brown Howe as Beckfoot, home to the Amazon pirates who careened their dinghy on the lake shore in the company of a 45-man film crew from Pinewood Studios.

David Blagden, David Cadwallader, and David Bracknell looking at the Amazon’s bottom with DPO Denis Lewiston in the background with the Panasonic

Careening the Amazon at Brown Howe, Coniston Water – photo: Daphne Neville

We were only given a couple of days to get used to handling Swallow and Amazon before filming began. Although happy out on the water, the director, Claude Whatham, knew little about boats. To make up for this, we had instruction from a sailing director in the form of a good-looking actor called David Blagden who presented a television programme called Plain Sailing. He’d recently raced crossed the Atlantic in a nineteen foot yacht called Willing Griffin but was unfamiliar with blustery Lakeland winds and did not know how to break down a script. Simon West, aged eleven, who played Captain John, ended up explaining to Claude how to get a decent shot while I tried not to shiver. My costume was designed by Emma Porteous of James Bond fame but consisted of nothing more than a short yellow dress and an enormous pair of navy-blue gym knickers.

Amazon, flying the Jolly Roger, with her seamed white lugsail and heavy centerboard is a lovely boat to sail. Although vital to the story, no one took into account that I needed to take her, on my own, from Secret Harbour on Wild Cat Island and drop her anchor off Cormorant Island. I was given a grey cardigan to wear but had not been asked if I could row. Having grown up handling a Thames skiff, I managed to use the leading lights we’d set up to negotiate the narrow channel and threatening rocks in one take. I repeated the action with Dennis Lewiston, the lighting-cameraman, and his 35mm Panavision camera in the stern but grew so tired that I needed to be carried ashore by a frogman acting as our safety officer.

Sophie Neville in The Amazon with DOP Denis Lewiston, his 16mm camera and a reflector board ~ photo: Martin Neville

Sophie Neville having captured the Amazon, with the lighting cameraman and 35mm Panavision Camera in her stern. Swallow is moored alongside – photo: Martin Neville

Titty later anchors Amazon off Cormorant Island on Derwentwater, but the shot of her wrapped in the sail, sleeping aboard, was taken in Mrs Batty’s blacked-out barn at Bank Ground, with the boat rocking on a cradle made by the unit carpenter. This was for a night scene when Titty is disturbed by burglars hiding a heavy trunk that turns out to contain Captain Flint’s treasure. When the action was repeated out on Derwentwater near One Tree Island, I got soaked. Rain had collected in the furled sails.

My one regret is that we didn’t follow the book when sailing the Amazon back to Wild Cat Island. The wind was up and Claude Whatham needed Captain John to sail Swallow ahead of the Amazon which is the faster boat. I originally took the tiller, as Titty is urged to in the story, but had trouble with the rudder. Mate Susan, played by Suzanna Hamilton, is at the helm on the cover of the Puffin paperback brought out to accompany the film, whilst I am fending off.

One of the film stills taken from the pontoon was used on the cover of the Puffin edition of ‘Swallows and Amazons’ brought out in 1974 to accompany the film.

The second part of the scene was shot on Coniston Water, with the Amazon Pirates, Nancy and Peggy ‘dancing with rage’ on Peel Island. A shot of this was used on the cover of a hardback and a DVD distributed by the Daily Mail.

Not many sailing films have been made and it was unusual for a movie to feature so many scenes set in two small dinghies. Mike Turk, whose family had been boat building for centuries, and Nick Newby of Nicol End Marine near Keswick, took up the challenge of adapting a cross-shaped pontoon to act as a mobile camera mount so that our dialogue could be recorded. This extraordinary vessel had two outboards but wasn’t easy to handle. The dinghies were wired to it with underwater cables but tended to pull away. Swallow’s mast broke the first time she was rigged, but the idea eventually worked and only Sten Grendon, playing Roger, fell in.


Amazon rigged up to the camera pontoon – photo: Richard Pilbrow

Somehow David Cadwallader, the grip looking after the camera equipment, managed to keep the horizon horizontal using no more than a spirit level on the tripod. Shadows were lifted from our faces by using reflector boards and, since the whole movie was post-synced at Elstree Studios, the audience can hear what we say.

Richard Pilbrow and his film crew on the camera pontoon with Eddie Collins operating the 16mm camera. Simon West and Stephen Grendon sail Swallow. Suzanna Hamilton is climbing aboard the Amazon with Sophie Neville

Filming Swallow and Amazon from the camera pontoon – photo: Daphne Neville

Sophie Neville on the pontoon during the filming of 'Swallows and Amazons'
The pontoon on Derwentwater with Richard Pilbrow, Bobby Sitwell, Denis Lewiston, Claude Whatham, David Cadwalader and Sophie Neville aged 12 playing Titty. Eddie Collins looks on ~ photo: Daphne Neville

Sophie Neville on the camera pontoon on Derwentwater – photo: Daphne Neville

The first Amazon, a chunky sea-going fourteen-footer with a standing lugsail purchased in Barrow-in-Furness by the Altounyan family in 1928, was originally called Mavis. After being restored, she was renamed Amazon in line with Ransome’s books but remains too leaky to take out. She now resides in the John Ruskin Museum at Coniston where she can be visited like a great aunt.

None of us children knew that the Amazon we sailed had been used in the 1963 BBC adaptation of Swallows and Amazons made in black and white with Susan George playing ‘Kitty’ as Titty was renamed. Looking at the photographs, it would have been good if Amazon’s hull had been painted black but her varnished planks are a nod to the 1970s when everyone was busy stripping pine.

By 2003, she was owned by the White family who I met when they brought Amazon from Kent to Cumbria to feature in Countryfile and an episode of Big Screen Britain. Ben Fogle met their twin daughters on Peel Island, looking very much like Nancy and Peggy in damp bathing costumes having been swimming in Coniston Water. It has been extremely generous of them to pass such a precious boat on to The Arthur Ransome Society.

Amazon will soon be available to hire at Hunter's Yard, Ludham
Amazon will soon be available to hire at Hunter’s Yard, Ludham

Amazon at Hunters Yard – photo: Marc Grimston

Amazon is currently being kept at Hunter’s Yard near Ludham where you can apply to sail her on the Norfolk Broads, along with the Titmouse and the Teasle, (a cabin cruiser called Lullaby) and a punt called the Dreadnaught featured in the 1984 BBC adaptation of Coot Club. Swallow is also there under restoration, needing a new keel.

Amazon being restored at Hunter's Yard, Ludham
Amazon being restored at Hunter’s Yard, Ludham

Amazon at Hunters Yard – photo: Marc Grimston

The plan is for both Swallow and Amazon to be on display at Windermere Jetty in Cumbria for the weekend of 29th & 30th June 2024. We hope some of the steamboats used to dress the Rio scenes set at Bowness-on-Windermere such as Osprey and George Pattinson’s launch Lady Elizabeth can be in attendance. Windermere Jetty is currently restoring the steam launch Esperance used by Ransome as his model for Captain Flint’s houseboat, and you can find the fourteen-foot RNSA dinghies used in the 2016 movie of Swallows and Amazons moored in the wet dock.

In 2021, everyone at Windermere Jetty gasped when Rupert Maas valued Swallow highly on BBC’s Antiques Roadshow, but the true worth of both Swallow and Amazon is akin to Captain Flint’s hidden treasure: instead of gold ingots his trunk contained precious memories of friendship and adventure. They no doubt kept him on course when the storms of life blew in and gave him plenty to write about. Just as Arthur Ransome’s books grant us solace, my prayer is that many will be able to grab the chance of sailing the little boats that take us into the stories immortalised on film so long ago. 

You can read more of Sophie Neville’s memories in The Making of Swallows and Amazons’, published by the Lutterworth Press and now available as an audiobook narrated by the author

'The Making of Swallows and Amazons (1974) by Sophie Neville'
Different editions of ‘The Making of Swallows and Amazons (1974) by Sophie Neville’

Thanks go to all those who have looked after and lovingly restored the inspirational boats that appear in the adaptations of Arthur Ransome’s books. If you would like to help by making a donation towards the restoration, the link is:

I would like to Donate – The Arthur Ransome Society (arthur-ransome.org)

Sophie Neville with Titmouse at Hunter’s Yard. She will join Swallow and Amazon at Windermere Jetty on 29th and 30th June. Come and join us!